MotoGP Silly Season Burning Questions #1: The Mathematics of Marc Marquez

Casey Stoner's retirement announcement marked the - unhealthily early - opening of MotoGP's silly season, and with just two weeks having passed, it is, in the words of Nicky Hayden, "too early to start thinking about that." At the moment, factories, teams and riders are still absorbing the news and pondering their strategy for the many talks and negotiations which will surely follow. Though the paddock, the media and the internet are full of speculation, everything is so open that even the wildest guess may turn out to be true.

Even so, there are a few hard truths that we can be sure of, and most of them revolve around Marc Marquez. After Jorge Lorenzo and Valentino Rossi, Marquez will play a key role in who goes where in 2013. Honda is a strong supporter of the Spaniard, in no small part due to the backing of oil giant Repsol. It seems almost certain (almost, but not completely) that Marquez will end up on a Honda in 2013, but that brings its own set of challenges. For the question is not so much what Marquez is to ride - money bet on it being a factory-spec and factory-supported Honda RC213V is probably the safest investment going given the troubled time the stock markets are going through - as which team he will be riding it in.

In years past, the answer to that question would have been self-evident: Marc Marquez would have gone straight into the factory Repsol Honda team on a two-year contract with the expectation that he would spend the first year learning and the second year as a title contender. But since the introduction of the Rookie Rule - introduced in 2009, and informally referred to as the Ben Spies Rule, as it prevented the Texan from going straight to a factory team - that has been impossible. Now, any new entrant into the MotoGP class has to spend a year with an independent team, either satellite or CRT.

That rule will not change, as Carmelo Ezpeleta has made it clear in any number of interviews. The last time that the rule was bent - to accommodate Suzuki and allow Alvaro Bautista to go straight to the factory team, Suzuki not having a satellite team to place the Spaniard with, after claims by Suzuki that having Bautista would allow them to continue competing in MotoGP - Suzuki pulled out anyway, and the Dorna boss is not inclined to be taken advantage of again in the same way. Ezpeleta has already granted the factories another set of concessions, postponing the introduction of the rev limit (now more likely to be 14,500 than 15,000 RPM) until 2015 rather than 2014, giving the factories another year on the engines they developed around the rules for this season. The continuing existence of the Rookie Rule is the price the factories have had to pay for that extra year of engine life. The satellite teams are all very happy with the way the Rookie Rule is working. "The Rookie Rule was designed to help independent teams," IRTA boss Mike Trimby told, "and it's working very well."

The logical alternative to that would be for Marquez to follow Valentino Rossi's example, and Marquez' current Moto2 Monlau Competicion team to move up to MotoGP with Marquez as a rider. A factory bike would not be a problem - the rule merely prohibits rookies from going to factory teams, it says nothing about what kind of equipment they must have - and Marquez has the financial backing to do whatever he wants. Valentino Rossi drew the comparison with his own situation back when he first entered the class back in the year 2000, when asked about the rookie rule during the pre-event press conference at Barcelona "I think that things won't change a lot for Marc next year," Rossi said, "because if the [rookie] rule stops, he can go to a full factory team, but if the rule remains, for sure Honda will give him a factory bike in his own team, a little bit like me in 2000."

But that introduces another complication into the equation: from 2013, each manufacturer will be limited to supplying bikes for just 4 riders, 2 in a factory team and 2 in satellite teams. That rule is now certain for next season, Trimby confirmed to The arrival of Marquez means that one of the teams will face a major shakeup for one of the five satellite teams, though most probably for one of the two Honda teams, Gresini or LCR. Marquez' team is keen to move up to MotoGP, a source close to the team told at Estoril, but with only 2 satellite Hondas on offer, that will mean that somebody is likely to lose out.

The Monlau Competicion team moving up as a separate entity would mean that Gresini and LCR, both of whom have been competing in MotoGP for years now, would face losing a satellite bike. Gresini is the stronger of the two private teams, but Cecchinello has shown a truly innovative approach to raising funding for the team, and has functioned well in the series. Taking away the satellite bike from either team would severely impact their ability to raise sponsorship and jeopardize their long-term future in the class. Allowing their place to be taken by the Monlau Competicion team would be risky, as that team will likely be absorbed into the Repsol Honda squad in 2014, once Marquez moves to the factory squad, as expected. A good existing team would be lost for short-term gain.

But absorbing Marquez' team into either LCR or Gresini is similarly risky, as room would have to be made for the crew that Marquez brings with him, which in turn would probably mean firing crew that have been working with a team for years. Marquez' crew would then depart again a year later with the Spaniard for the factory squad, leaving either LCR or Gresini with a vacancy for not just a rider, but also for a complete crew to support that rider, their old crew having dissipated through the paddock. One year's benefit would cause more problems in the longer term once Marquez departs.

Perhaps the most realistic option is for the Monlau Competicion team to join forces with one of the two Honda satellite teams and take over the running of the factory-backed RC213V for Marquez, with Marquez' sponsors supplying sufficient cash for the team to run a second CRT entry alongside Marquez. That scenario is probably more realistic for LCR than for Gresini, as Gresini already has two bikes using such a set up.

In the end, the decision will be made by Honda. It is HRC who will ultimately decide who they will lease their bikes to, and it is up to HRC to weigh the importance of Marquez to the plans for the factory team against the importance of having strong satellite teams they can nurture talent in and represent the marque. It is a decision they are likely to spend quite some time considering.

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And what about Rossi on-board factory RC213V, while the second factory bike would be run by Marquez, but in his own team? This solution would mean that only 4 Hondas will stay on the grid in 2013, with no impact on Gresini or Cecchinello team. Plus, I think that Repsol could be the main sponsor for the official factory team as well as for Marquez squad.

As mentioned in the article, that was a special exception to the rule because Suzuki did not have satellite teams and times were tough for them. But it has been made clear that no further exceptions will be made to that rule.

for 2013 Marquez and his team to LCR and Bradl to HRC
for 2014 Marquez and his team to HRC and Bradl back to his LCR team if Dani is still there

By 2014 Dani will be gone from HRC unless he scores a title. According to Ryder/Moody, Shuhei Nakamoto has said that the factory team will not have two spanish riders at the same time.

After years of complaining that the factories are not supplying enough machines now they limit factory entries when there is a rider able to buy in at the upper level? Let Honda supply 5 bikes and the grid grows by 1. Restrict them to 4 bikes and the grid stays the same size next year but in 2 years the grid may shrink due to a folding satellite team. Isn't that throwing the baby out with the bathwater?

The problem with reactionary rule-making is that you are always reacting to the moment and are never able to get ahead of the curve which is where you need to be to make a positive difference.


According to motomatters on twitter, Dorna is actually the ones that end up paying for the satellite bikes, the satellite teams can't cover the cost on their own. I believe Dorna will be spending approximately the same amount, but just supporting the CRT teams instead, as they can get more teams on the grid that way.

So they aren't losing a potential satellite team, as the team would be dependent upon Dorna to help lease the bike.

Marquez seems to have the financial backing not to need Dorna's help (at least before Spain joins Greece in the race to bankruptcy). If it were down to Dorna not wanting to subsidize factory race efforts the easy answer would be to tell teams that they will get no assistance if they go the prototype route and let the factories supply as many bikes as the richer teams can afford to lease. Problem solved: no Dorna money to MSMA members and prodigies like Marquez get to step in to the class in the manner that they wish.


I agree with Chris. Dorna want more bikes on the grid and Honda surely wouldn't mind providing an extra factory RC213V. There shouldn't be a problem here.

Ha ha, you gonna run that by them? A bit of an assumption to make.

Ha ha, you gonna run that by them? A bit of an assumption to make.

Dorna limiting the factories to just 4 bikes is a terrible rule. Also, didnt Ezpeleta say he will not financially support teams that want to lease factory prototypes, but he will support any team wanting to go the CRT route.

Honda can still supply as many CRT bikes as they want....

See where I'm going with this?

winky, wink ;)

But a CRT bike from Honda would never be an RC213V (or descendant), as they would never want to risk having the engine claimed.

Marquez goes to Gresini with his squad, Gresini runs two CRT bikes next year alongside the factory bike of Marquez. At the end of the year, Gresini still has his crew(s), Marquez gets his factory bike and there is minimal disruption. Honda makes it all very palatable by helping Gresini with the CRT project and everyone wins.

More options here.

Scenario 1
Marquez - LCR Honda Prototype (full factory spec a la Simoncelli)

Bautista - Gresini Honda Prototype (satellite spec)
Pirro - Gresini Honda CRT

Lorenzo - Repsol Honda
Bradl - Repsol Honda

Scenario 2
Pedrosa - Repsol Honda
Bradl - Repsol Honda

Marquez- LCR Honda Prototype (full factory spec)
Gresini continues as it is today
This scenario is not unlikely if the thinking that Honda does not want two Spaniards in one team is true.

Scenario 3

Lorenzo- Repsol Honda
Bradl- Repsol Honda

Marquez - LCR Honda Prototype (full factory spec)
Gresini continues as it is

Scenario 4

Rossi - Repsol Honda
Pedrosa - Repsol Honda

Marquez - Gresini Honda Prototype (full factory spec a la Simoncelli)
Michele Pirro- Gresini Honda CRT

Bradl - LCR Honda Prototype
Bautista - LCR Honda CRT

But these four scenarios do not factor in Yamaha if Lorenzo leaves and Ducati if Rossi leaves. Lorenzo leaves Yamaha, and he could get replaced by Rossi or Pedrosa or the latter two could become Yamaha factory squad with Ben Spies out as he is under-performing.

What would it mean if Rossi leaves Ducati? The end of the Ducati effort in MotoGP? That means four less motorcycles. More CRTs anyone? Oh Casey, Casey what did you do?