The setting for the launch of the WithU Yamaha RNF MotoGP Team was genuinely spectacular. From the stunning Philharmonic Theater in Verona, Italy, and featuring a couple of doses of opera – a refreshing change from the standard MotoGP diet of electronica or metal – the team walked through the presentation of its riders, its livery, and its team management. The launch was let down by technology – though the Facebook feed was pretty smooth, the YouTube video was stuttery and barely watchable.
Not that it mattered all that much. Team launches, especially of satellite teams, are mostly dog-and-pony shows aimed mostly at flattering the egos of sponsors, and generating a headline or two on a slow news day. In that, it was successful. There was plenty of chatter on social media over the launch.
Afterwards, the media got to talk to some of the protagonists over Zoom, a technology that looks set to stay in MotoGP for the foreseeable future. And that did lead to a few interesting insights, some about the team, some about the state of MotoGP, and what might change.
One of the biggest questions in the minds of many is just how long the RNF team will last, given that the team is on a one-year deal with Yamaha. However, both Yamaha and RNF have made it clear that this is largely a technicality. The deal is limited to a single year due to Yamaha's internal corporate governance rules, which dictate that long-term deals can't be done with newly-formed companies. The Petronas squad had already existed in one form or another since 2014 when they signed the deal with Yamaha for the 2019 season.
That doesn't mean that a contract extension with Yamaha is a formality, however. Team Principal Razlan Razali will have to prove that the team is viable over the medium term, at least. "I think for Yamaha it's all about stability in running the team," the Malaysian team founder said. "We do have a target in terms of on-track performance, of course, but sport is sport, and that includes motorsport with MotoGP. Anything can happen. So for Yamaha, it's more important about how we run the team as a whole for the year."
That was not something he was particularly worried about, given the past few years. "The good thing is we have the experience, Yamaha knows us, it's the same group of people. But still we need to show what can do in terms of running the team." RNF would know its future by the middle of the season, Razali said. "Yamaha will assess how we perform in June. And I'm confident that we can run the team well, so by June, they will look at extension beyond 2022. Whether it's for one more year or two more years is something we will discuss with Yamaha."
Empty nest syndrome
The team is not entirely the same group of people, however. When Valentino Rossi was moved into the Petronas Yamaha SRT team for the 2021 season, he brought with him crew chief David Muñoz and data engineer Matteo Flamigni. After Rossi's retirement, Muñoz and Flamigni departed to the VR46 team, taking several other team members with them.
"One side of the garage remains the same, which is Andrea's garage. The other side, we had to replace because the team that was from VR46 left. So the other side with Darryn, we had to replace with some people," Razlan Razali explained.
This is a common problem for teams when high-profile riders come and go. Back in 2012, when the Grand Prix Commission scrapped the so-called Rookie Rule, which prevented MotoGP rookies from going straight to a factory team, dropped to allow Marc Marquez to move from Moto2 straight into the Repsol Honda squad, one satellite team manager expressed their support for the change. They pointed out exactly this risk, that a rider would be airdropped into a satellite team for one season, along with their handpicked staff, forcing the team to part ways with staff who had often been with the team for many years.
Rossi's departure from the Petronas squad left a massive hole on one side of the garage, and RNF has had to assemble a new crew for Darryn Binder almost from scratch.
The most interesting things Razlan Razali had to say were about the future of the paddock, and of sponsorship. The Covid-19 pandemic has caused a massive rethink inside MotoGP. Prior to the pandemic, the paddock was usually packed, with guest passes seemingly handed out to anyone who asked, as long as they were a friend of the sister of the uncle of the person who cut the hair of a Moto3 mechanic's brother's little girl. It was a reason the riders and teams loved races like Qatar, where there were far fewer fans present, and they could go about their business almost unmolested.
It also met with resistance from team managers and the commercial staff who were in charge of selling MotoGP to sponsors. They were trying to sell MotoGP as a high-value proposition, a difficult argument to make when their sponsors were being trampled underfoot in the general paddock crush of Misano or Jerez. There was a brief attempt to add value for satellite teams a decade ago, when the MotoGP part of the paddock was sectioned off from the rest. But that died an early death as impractical and taking away value from the Moto2 and Moto3 teams, who wanted to give their sponsors value by allowing them a tour of the MotoGP part of the paddock.
The pandemic changed all that. Though the 2020 season was something of a wasteland, with no one granted admission except for those who actually worked in the paddock, 2021 saw a return of guests and sponsors, on a very limited basis. It transformed the paddock, leaving it easy to navigate, while giving sponsors a sense of exclusivity. That gave them a reason to put their money, hard earned or otherwise, into MotoGP.
A new, better normal
Razali highlighted this dilemma. "I think we would like for the paddock to return back to normal, of course, but at the same time, we also like to see actual value guests, rather than friends and families, mainly friends," he said. "I think the paddock needs to reinvent itself to make itself more valuable."
Giving sponsors a sense of exclusivity was key, Razali said. "It is important for the paddock to be a little bit unrestricted, but at the same time we need to control to make sure that the right people have the passes, the right clients, because we really need to make sure that we need new money in the sport, rather than fishing in the same pool. How can Formula 1 attract a lot of investment and MotoGP struggle a little bit? So that's something that the whole paddock and Dorna need to think about, because things are hard, for motorsport especially, but I think MotoGP is valuable enough for us to do more to attract more sponsors."
Finding new sponsors was something the RNF team was trying to do, but it was also a task that faced all of the paddock. And that required ingenuity. "In terms of new money, teams need to find ways to reinvent themselves and find ways to get new money. We are in the process of doing that," Razali explained. "Of course, I have limited time to promote myself to get new money, but slowly we are getting new sponsors. Small at the moment, but eventually they will grow if the situation goes well."
Help from Dorna would also be welcome, Razali said, though he insisted that teams couldn't rely on Dorna to do the work of sponsorship acquisition for them. "I don't want to put too much emphasis on Dorna, they have done quite a lot already, but any kind of help from them to attract new investment, new sponsors, I'm sure the teams are open for that."
Looking at the livery of the WithU Yamaha RNF MotoGP Team bikes, the sponsorship quest is clearly visible. RNF has managed to retain and expand the role of several of their sponsors from the Petronas Yamaha SRT period. But the sponsor-stacking on a busy livery can detract from the proposition.
In a case where there are so many different sponsors involved, the approach taken by Lucio Cecchinello at LCR Honda looks more attractive, offering title sponsorship and maximum exposure at a set number of rounds, and minor sponsor status at others. It makes for a cleaner look, and an easier upsell. But it is not my place to criticize the efforts of others at selling sponsorship.
Results matter for a team's ability to obtain sponsorship, and the WithU Yamaha RNF MotoGP Team rider line up presents some challenges in that respect. On one side of the garage, they have Darryn Binder, the rookie promoted directly from Moto3 amid a storm of criticism. On the other, Andrea Dovizioso, championship runner up from 2017 to 2019, but who struggled to adapt to the new Michelin rear tire in 2020, and who is having to make the transition from the Ducati to the Yamaha, two radically different machines.
The elevation of Binder to MotoGP is a risk, Razali admits. "Yes, it's a big risk for us, and for Darryn especially. But we have capable, experienced people around him, around the team, experienced enough to guide him properly." With Wilco Zeelenberg as team manager and Torleif Hartelman as rider analyst, Binder is in excellent hands.
"For me it's a dream come true," the South African said. "Everybody wants to race in MotoGP one day so to get given opportunity like this, you can't refuse it. It's the greatest opportunity I've ever had in my life, so I grabbed it with both hands."
Chasing a dream
Binder was all too aware of the criticism. "Obviously there were mixed feelings and lots of different comments and stuff, but I mean I would be stupid not to accept my life's dream. I've worked towards this my whole life and if somebody gives you this opportunity you take it and make the most of it."
To assist in the jump, Binder had spent a lot of time riding a Yamaha R1 on track, getting used to the feel of a much bigger and heavier bike. He had also adapted his training, working more on strength and worrying less about his weight, the bane of every Moto3 rider.
But he was realistic about the challenge ahead. "It's definitely a big risk to jump straight to MotoGP," the South African said. "It's not always about how fast you can get to MotoGP it's about how long you can stay there. It's the pinnacle of the sport, you want to get there and stay there for as long as possible. It is a big risk but at the same time I could never reject this offer and it doesn't really bother me. It's been my dream my whole life to ride a MotoGP bike. It's a lot of people's dreams and a lot of people that don’t ever get to live that dream. So I'm going to go there and do my absolute best and as long as I know I gave my absolute all and I believe in myself that I have enough to do well. I'm going to go there and do what I can."
Naturally enough, Binder saw Jack Miller, who moved straight from Moto3 to MotoGP in 2015 as a role model. "Look at other riders like Jack who jumped straight to MotoGP and made it work. Yes it took quite long but very different circumstances for him. There's been riders that have gone through Moto2 in one year and jumped to MotoGP and been good."
Seeing what Raul Fernandez had done in Moto2 also gave Binder hope. "It also gives me confidence when I look at Raul Fernandez. Yes he was very strong at the end of Moto3 but up until then he hadn't done anything crazy. But then he jumped to Moto2 and did amazing things. I've always felt I suited a bigger bike better and that I struggled in Moto3 with my weight and size a little bit, so I feel I suit a bigger bike better, should be more comfortable. I've literally got everything I could ask for in a motorcycle, I've got all the tools, I just need to learn how to use them in the correct way. I believe that I can do that and I’ll be able to go fast."
Teammate Andrea Dovizioso also has work to do, though he comes from the opposite side of the experience spectrum. In Dovizioso's case, the challenge comes from below, as it were. He has to adapt to a Yamaha, which requires a totally different riding style, and to the rear Michelin introduced at the start of the 2020 season. The combination of the two means Dovizioso will have to work on his riding style.
"The new rear tire casing that arrived in 2020 changed the way you have to brake especially and also with the Yamaha it's the same, you have to use the balance of the two tires in a different way," the Italian veteran explained. "And still I think I can use that balance in a better way. Still I don’t feel comfortable when I'm braking I don’t feel that I'm using the potential of the tires and the bike."
He had made progress at the end of 2021, he felt, when he took over at Petronas from the Misano round. "I was improving a lot in the last two races of last season, but I changed completely in the way I was braking, compared to Ducati, because the Yamaha requests different things. And it also helped me to adapt to the new casing from 2020." That wasn't easy, though. "In the way you have to ride the Yamaha, at the moment it is not natural for me. But I think it's not easy but it's possible to adapt and use a bit of your style."
It is a big change, because he has to change the way he thinks about riding. "I think I have to adapt more for sure, because when you have something big about the DNA of the bike you have to follow the characteristic of the bike. But I think you have to keep a few things of your strength, so still I'm working on the small details to try to mix these two things."
The lessons of Lorenzo
Dovizioso took his lead from his former teammate, Jorge Lorenzo, who had made the opposite journey, from Yamaha to Ducati. Lorenzo had struggled in his first year on the Desmosedici, but figured it out in his second year and ended up winning races, ironically right after Ducati had let him go.
"What Jorge did, Jorge started to be competitive when, in my opinion, he changed his mind, his approach and he rode in a different way than the Yamaha, and didn't try to ride like at Yamaha," Dovizioso explained. "But he took something of his riding style. That's why I told you before I think it's very important to adapt because the MotoGP of today – tires, brakes, electronics, chassis – it's quite clear what you have to do in every bike. But every rider has different talent and different experience. And everybody has something special."
Dovizioso's goals for the year are modest, despite the high hopes Razlan Razali has for him. Fighting for the championship, as Razali wants, is a very tough proposition, the Italian said. "I think it would be difficult because the level is so high and you don’t know - still because we have to do the tests – how the situation will be for our bike compared to the other bikes. Because the rules are now open again for engine, for everything. So everything can happen and nobody knows. So I don’t want to say 'yes'. I'm here to try to do that - and I don’t think I will have this year to use like a learning year!"
There was one nugget of information which Andrea Dovizioso let slip, which pertains to his sponsor Alpinestars. In recent years, Dovizioso has been a stalwart of Suomy helmets, and raced with a Shoei in 2021. But in the photos for the team launch, he appeared with a helmet without logos.
"I don’t have a helmet brand because I did the deal with Alpinestars for everything," Dovizioso responded when asked. That is no surprise, given that Dovizioso is also a long-time Alpinestars athlete. The curiosity comes with the fact that Alpinestars do not, at the moment, have a road helmet in their line up, only MX helmets. That would suggest that Alpinestars are on the verge of announcing at least a prototype of a road racing helmet, a rumor which has been doing the rounds for a while.
The Sepang test starts on February 5th, so we should get confirmation by then. Darryn Binder takes to the track earlier, joining the Tech3 KTM duo of Raul Fernandez and Remy Gardner, and the Ducati riders Marco Bezzecchi and Fabio Di Giannantonio at the shakedown test on January 31st, together with the test riders from each of the MotoGP factories.
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I Hope This Works Out For Everybody
But I think success will be difficult. Daryn sounds optimistic as he should but he's likely not up to it. It took a long time for Miller to become successful and he was the best in Moto3. Binder wasn't that good in Moto3, so he might not get the time in MotoGP he'll need. Meanwhile, Dovi is already making excuses. At least he witnessed what Lorenzo did first hand, so he's got a playbook to help him if he really wants it.
In reply to I Hope This Works Out For Everybody by rholcomb
I’m not sure results in Moto3 are that much of an indicator, you see riders going from hero to zero in the space of a corner and there’s almost nothing they can do about that. While I can’t say I’ve ever been impressed by Binders ‘coming through, ready or not’ overtaking style, he sure as hell fights hard and has talent, two other things he has in common with MM. Dovi sounds like a man who’s in it for love or money, or a bit of both, with low expectations results-wise. Which is probably fairly realistic given the competition, the bike and where he’s at, career-wise.
In reply to Moto3 performance by Lilyvani
One thing I always noticed
One thing I always noticed about Binder in Moto3 was that no matter where he qualified by lap 3 he was fighting at the front. No so much last year but the green power KTM in 2020/2019 it was almost a given. Never came to much but there was definitely something there. Casey Stoner never had much success in the lower classes until he hitched up with LCR for his last year in 250. The next year LCR Honda MotoGP, pole in his 2nd race, podium in his third and was champ with Ducati the year after that. Remote chance of that being a great indicator of Binder's 2022 but let see what he can do. I hope he does well.
In reply to One thing I always noticed by WaveyD1974
Whatever the class, there are always a small number of riders who, if they’re not in the leading pack after a lap or two, have me looking at the leaderboard to see where they are and what’s gone wrong. In Moto3, DB is one of them. I expect he’ll do fairly well but he won’t get away with bashing his way through on that bike. And he might just come of age and become something special.
"...the stunning Philharmonic Theater in Verona, Italy(link is external), and featuring a couple of doses of opera – a refreshing change from the standard MotoGP diet of electronica or metal..."
I too found the operatic voices stunning and powerful, and I am not a follower of opera. The opera stars are on the left in your team photo.
Not that this Forum will watch it, but here is a YouTube link to the presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUjxgSl8JFA&t=1129s
Live, the YouTube feed may have been stuttery, but the recorded version is fine.
I found the livery to be a bit boring, a busy take on Yamaha black and blue. The Gresini team is much more refreshing and "out there".
Let's see how this team works out, the pairing of Dovi with young Binder could be great. So many questions in the air.
Just watched the KTM launch.
Just watched the KTM launch.
Just two thoughts. The Factory bikes' livery look great, nice update. Also, calling it - Raul Fernandez is our new least likeable person in the paddock. Prepare yourself for a long run of Lorenzo-like but WORSE crap. Self involved, full of sh*t, egoic, and I hope he gets his ass handed to him on a plate. He wins least favorite person riding GP's. Remy, show him your tail.
In reply to Just watched the KTM launch. by Motoshrink
Least likeable pick!
I picked RF for best rookie in our little comp, but find him more than a little unpalatable. Go Remy!
I doubt even his grandma likes him!
Is he more arrogant than M.Marquez was at the same point?
If, at the close of the
If, at the close of the Sepang test, Quartararo has not experienced two significant steps forward in outright straight line power from the 2022 Blue powerplant...Yamaha is losing The Quartararo.
Times just changed. You can tune that fork all you want, but the goalposts moved. He is better and the bike is worse than it appeared in 2021 relative to shapeshifted and aero'd V4's. This Duc TURNS. This Honda? Yep. Mir is leaving too. The inlines have just hit "how can we possibly catch them?!" time.
I hope Blue brings motor. And, it is a false dichotomy to argue that they can't without losing their DNA and sweet bike. Suzuki has done two steps forward in outright power while Blue has rested on their Alien's results.
Some of the criticism of Vinales should have been shared by Yamaha. Last yr was much worse than it looked thanks to Quarty.
Super ready to see our 2022 machines this weekend! Expecting very good things from Honda, and not Yamaha. Orange? Hopeful! And, Rookies...hotly contested this go around.
In reply to If, at the close of the by Motoshrink
For sure they had the best
For sure they had the best rider situation of all teams.
In reply to If, at the close of the by Motoshrink
if the Ducati is clearly a step ahead, with eight of them on the grid this will be a pretty boring race season. Great talent on the other brands will be backmarkers, and, as you 'Shrink point out, that talent will be frustrated. Leading to a very active silly season.
And, if you have read any of my posts you know that I have a perhaps unreasonable but passionate hope to see Dovi in the lead pack again (although perhaps history will show that he left red at exactly the wrong time). Top 10 would be success, top five would be amazing, and a podium means you will never hear the end of it from me.
Let the racing begin!
In reply to Well... by St. Stephen
In line with the direction of
In line with the direction of the sport over the last 5 years, if Ducati are a step ahead to the point that everybody else is racing for 7th (9th) or luck then Ducati will no longer be a step ahead. I think they will all be very close and the rider/box will decide.
In reply to In line with the direction of by WaveyD1974
(Warm sincere font) Meaning
(Warm sincere font) Meaning via an improvement from the others WaveyD? I am aware this all may sound a bit nuts to be examining possible Red Dominance as they are at the threshold and before they have won a Cup, but that IS what is being bandied about via tea leaves.
What if the new rules and the tires we have for at least two years give us some parameters to work in? And, what we just saw after Red/Pecco arrived last season? These rules, specifically shapeshifter plus aero, AND that the Red bike did something game changing called "turning" plus "tire management" ---- have we just entered a new era? One not for the Inline 4's? No tuning fork voodoo, no crossplane drive out dynamo?
I say yes. And, maybe most importantly, Mir AND Quarty may be right this weekend too? Big Deal!
Not only the Red bike being qualitatively different than the previous lay of the grid, but the Honda really looks to be substantially likely to be a V4 revolution as well. The geometry is completely different. It is longish and low. Upon cutting the umbilical chord and spanking it, it's very first cry was faster than its predecessor AND providing exactly what riders had requested across all 3 riders on it.
That is a big deal x 2. Right now Pol is trending up in my crystal ball. Marc is in nearly everyone's. Martin has been for most. And Bagnaia is solidly bookie's favorite, Marc's to spoil. Contrary narrative? Nope, not really, not even from people within Yamaha or Suzuki.
Feels like we are entering a chicane. Hold on tight!
In reply to (Warm sincere font) Meaning by Motoshrink
Totally agree Shrink. However
Totally agree Shrink. However, I do prefer to wait until a wheel has turned in anger and a few races more. Pre-season tests mostly give a good idea of the top ten but within that top ten it's all to play for. There are always anomalies.
When a rider comments on how a weekend is going I think it's usually a good indicator of how that weekend is going. When a rider comments on 'the bike' I think it is a more considered response and far less likely to represent reality. Lots for a rider to consider.
Think of current Ducati or KTM riders. There's a queue for your seat and it's internal of the company. It's not just a bike, it's a brand, an image. We love Peco and Peco loves we. Peco is part of the family and is our guy ! Peco would be out of the door as soon as another rider looked more likely to deliver and there's a whole bunch less guess work involved in making that judgement when you have a 'team' of 8 riders. In this light we can be sure it's the best bike in history.
Different riders are in different circumstances. Politics play a large role. Fabio looks like a rare gem, he is champion, Yamaha's 1st champion since Lorenzo, Yamaha transformed since he arrived in 2019, his credit score is strong, he can say almost anything he likes. Fabio can use this position to guard off complacency in Yamaha, if any exists. Maybe he is just sharing genuine concerns of how bad the bike is but why would he tell the opposition this ? Then again, he is not telling anybody anything they do not already know, the Yamaha is slow as per normal in the usual way Yamahas have always been slow. Possibly the picture is even worse if he would only tell us the whole tragic truth. Really difficult to know anything from what a rider says. What we are left with is the results.
The key to winning a championship in MotoGP is to be consistent. If the fastest is not consistent then the slower more consistent will steal it. That is especially true these day because the gaps are so small. Think of a 2009 Rossi finishing 10 seconds behind Lorenzo but going on to become champion. That gap in a 2009 race gives a points difference of 5...2021 points difference 15+. Remember the days when we had epic championship battles between Marquez and Dovi ? Epic battles until a bogey track, bogey sector or a bogey corner. 2017 Marquez had 3 DNFs on his way to the title but when he didn't crash he finished mostly on the podium. Marquez 6 wins, Dovi 6 wins. Dovi up and down within the top ten. 6th, 7th, 8th and then 13th in Phillip Island. The most consistent of the 'top bunch' wins. 2019 was an unusual example of consistency but 2016 and 2018 the same. 2020, 2021 the same. Peco twice won back to back races in 2021 as did Dovi in 2017. In both cases a lack of consistency across the season killed any championship.
None of this means that Ducati will not win the title in 2022. I don't think they have a curse which prevents them from winning. 2021 definitely showed that Peco has arrived in the 'top bunch' as a rider but he was not consistent enough. His finish to the season was brilliant and compared to Fabio from Aragon onwards it looks very rosy. Interesting to note that when Gardner finished here or there it was clever, sensible or the result of championship pressure but with Fabio it's a symptom of Yamaha's demise. 2nd in Misano, 2nd at COTA and 4th at Misano 2....'dying in style'.
All of the teams, riders, crew chiefs, software engineers, mechanics have to turn up at each circuit and adapt to the unique circumstances which each weekend presents. That is where the champioship will be. Potentially on pole by 3 tenths is worthless unless the potential is realised or at least near realised. The potential might be a win by 10 seconds but a one 2nd will do so long as you do it weekend in weekend out. If we reach a point where a single manufacturer has a performance advantage which bypasses this game, reduces the intense competition of this game, risks harming the success and growth of the sport...I do not think it will last.
In reply to Totally agree Shrink. However by WaveyD1974
Ready for spreadsheet Ivanhoe!
2022 Top 5 + Rookie (thanks Ivanhoe, pop a spreadsheet update in under each race result article? You are the BEST! Please let us know if you need help. And, if points are equal, Apical volunteered to determine who is ahead with me. Good picks, I bet you do well. What a great grid of readers for 2022!).
Motoshrink: 1. M.Marquez 2. Bagnaia 3. Quartararo 4. Mir 5. Martin 6. Bezzecchi
Brian: 1. Bagnaia 2. Quartararo 3. Mir 4. Martin 5. Miller 6. Gardner
Ibis117: 1: Bagnaia; 2: Martin; 3: M.Marquez M; 4: Mir; 5: Morbidelli, 6: Fernandez
Apical; 1. Bagnaia 2. Quartararo 3. M. Marquez 4. Miller 5. Martin 6. Gardner
Cloverleaf "#1 plate": 1. Bagnaia 2. Martin 3. Quartararo 4. Mir 5. B.Binder 6.Bezzechi
Curly: 1 Bagnaia, 2 M.Marquez, 3 Quartararo, 4 Miller, 5 Martin, 6 Fernandez
WW: 1. Quartararo. 2. Bagnaia 3. M.Marquez 4. Miller 5. Mir 6. Fernandez
D999: 1: M.Marquez 2: Bagnaia 3: Quartararo 4: Miller 5: Mir 6: Fernandez
Powervalve58: 1. Bagnaia, 2. Mir, 3. Bastianini, 4. Marini, 5. A.Espargaro, 6. Bezzecchi
Peterday: 1. Bagnaia 2. Quartararo 3. Mir 4. Martin 5. Morbidelli 6. Di Giannantonio
Ivanhoe: 1. Bagnaia, 2. Quartararo, 3. Mir, 4. Miller, 5. Morbidelli, 6. Fernandez
Highside Specialist: 1. Bagnaia 2. M.Marquez 3. Quartararo 4. Mir 5. Miller 6. Fernandez
Poole Pirate: 1. Bagnaia 2. M.Marquez 3. Martin 4. Miller 5. Dovi 6. Fernandez
Yud77: 1. Quartararo 2. Bagnaia 3. M.Marquez 4. Mir 5. Morbidelli 6. Gardner
St. Stephen: 1) Quartararo, 2. Bagnaia, 3. Mir, 4. Martin, 5. Dovisioso, 6. Fernandez
KN58: 1. M.Marquez 2. Bagnaia 3. Miller 4. Quartararo 5. Zarco 6. Bezzecchi
SP_won: 1 Bagnaia, 2 Quartararo, 3 Miller, 4 Martin, 5 M.Marquez, 6 Gardner
WaveyD1974: 1: M.Marquez. 2: Bastianini. 3: Morbidelli. 4: Bagnaia. 5: Quartararo. 6: D.Binder.
TZnRDracer: 1. Bagnaia, 2. Quartararo, 3. Bastianini, 4. Miller, 5. Morbidelli, 6. Fernandez
TheBoss: 1. Quartararo, 2. Mir, 3. Miller, 4. Bagnaia, 5. Zarco, 6. Gardner
Gerrycollins: 1) Miller, 2) Bagnaia, 3) Mir, 4) Quartararo, 5) Martin, 6) Gardner
daddyrat: 1. M Marquez, 2. Bagnaia, 3. Quartararo 4. Martin, 5.Morbidelli 6. Gardner
Rockhen: 1. Bagnaia, 2. Miller, 3. Quartararo, 4. Morbidelli, 5. M.Marquez, 6. Gardner
oldholla: 1) Bagnaia 2) M.Marquez 3) Quartararo 4) Mir 5) Miller 6) Gardner
Emlupi: 1. Bagnaia 2. Marquez 3. Quartararo 4. Mir 5. Martin 6. Di Giannantonio
stumo: 1. Bagnia 2. M.Marquez 3. Bastianini 4. Quartararo 5. Mir 6. Fernandez
Dman904: 1. Bagnaia 2. Miller 3. Quartararo 4. M.Marquez 5. Rins 6. Fernandez
Isoia: 1. Bagnaia, 2. Martin, 3. Quartararo, 4. M. Marquez, 5. Mir, 6. Gardner
Riesjart: 1. Bagnaia 2. Martin 3. M.Marquez 4. Quartararo 5. Bastianini 6. Bezzecchi
Wolferl123: 1. Bagnaia 2. Oliveira 3. Quartararo 4. Martin 5. Miller 6. Fernandez
BJ-Neilson: 1. Bagnaia, 2. Miller, 3. Martin, 4. Marquez, 5. Quartararo, 6. Gardner.
GSP: 1. Marquez 2. Martin 3. Quartararo 4. Bagnaia 5. Miller 6. Fernandez
In reply to Ready for spreadsheet Ivanhoe! by Motoshrink
Yep we can do a 2022 sheet!
‘Technically’ the sheet uses the motomatters results so it will be easiest to populate after first race. And will download this list as a starting point.
With Marc on the mend, excluding him from top 5 might have been a tad pessimistic, hope everyone (including Morbidelli!) turn up happy and healthy and we are in for a great one (again!)
In reply to Spreadsheet: yes by ivanhoe
^ THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK
^ THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! Sincerely.
It was a real gamble to put Marc up high, and made things difficult. It was tough last yr too! He still has lots of questions marks, and some are quite pessimistic. A few of us were at the opposite end. We shall see, and perhaps sooner than later?
You are the BEST Mr Ivan!!
3 Day Shakedown Test has
3 Day Shakedown Test has arrived. Test riders and Rookies get a go here. Closed Door, so we only get a few bits of video and pictures.
Monday we should know just a few anecdotal things.
The Qatar Race is the first week of March, essentially a month out.
If you are very still, you can smell the race fuel!
Actually makes me miss the Monster Tech3 bikes, sheesh. I cannot fault a team doing what they must to secure sponsorship funding, but that thing looks worse than most regional-level bikes.
In reply to That livery... by lotsofchops
I’m triggered by this comment
I’m triggered by this comment haha
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Would it help to talk it out
Would it help to talk it out amongst friends? Or just a palate cleanser considering gorgeous liveries?
Have a favorite db? What did you think of yellow w blue Camel? Or red w yellow Fortuna? Orange H.M.Plant in BSB? The old Foggy Aqua? Rizla Suzuki? (Did cigarettes make bikes prettier?!). The 2005 Yamaha retro yellow w choppy stripes gets lots of mention. I still like Repsol actually.
I hear you folks on this one, esp the Enel one on the top left with logos barfed on it semi-digested at 3am. Missed opportunity here.
In reply to Would it help to talk it out by Motoshrink
No question, the Lucky Strike/Pepsi Suzukis. By far the best ever to my mind.
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You like it?
I don't want to yuck anyone's yum; it's just definitely not my style at all.